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Sharon / Agent 13 ([personal profile] agentxthirteen) wrote in [community profile] entranceooc2017-06-28 12:02 pm

A Lack of Handwaving

So I've been working on Sharon's notebooks to replace the ones her mirror stole (i.e., the ones I never did much with because time is a Thing) and I was going to work on Sharon's event notebook when it eventually occurred to me. I am a stupid goose. Because there have been SO MANY residents in Wonderland who have kept track of events! There's no reason there wouldn't be at least one copy - probably multiple - copies around!

I know we're in the habit of handwaving things, but I've seen some characters note that events seem to correspond to holidays, and since not all of us have brilliant memories, I thought it might be good to have a reference that we can point to?

What I have is still a work in progress (yeah, I've been writing it down), but if anyone's interested in helping out, I'd be happy to have it. The bulletin board only covers character-inspired events, and I know we've had more events than that. So if anyone wants to help with a reference that we can look at and "Hmmm yessss yes that" over, please don't hesitate!

Also, I'd like to keep the post-event talk going since handwaved things tend to be forgotten. With no one dying this time (that I'm aware), would anyone be interested in having a D&D&D session and sharing bad-ass moves they did (or didn't) do? If anyone wants to help out with those and get a rotation going so it isn't all-Sharon-all-the-time, I'd be glad for that, too. I'm hoping the posts can help serve as an AC opportunity for characters who don't speak out on the network much, so yeah. I'd like for the post-event talks to not completely fizzle out, but I also don't want to be me-me-me about them. I've been thinking about one log each AC period with events under header comments, but I don't want Sharon to be the only one holding each of the meetings.

In short, anyone interested in being a Wonderland Leslie Knope and having some crackpot conventions where people may care at you very loudly? (I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE, I ONLY KNOW THE MODS ARE A DELIGHTFUL KIND OF EVIL.)
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-06-28 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've really enjoyed the progress that's unfolded from your/Sharon's efforts! Are you open for suggestions / wider OOC discussion about it at all? I have some suggestions, but I don't want to assume my voice carries more weight than it should depending on your intentions.

I ask because it seems like something Ray would want to help with but I personally don't have a ton of time or energy to spare. I have done some similar work at other games in the past (esp regarding collaborating with a group), and I'd love to spitball a bit if you / others who are interested are willing.

(And if not, I'll still jump on in what limited capacity I can ♥)
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-06-29 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's worth me disclaimering that my RP style trends toward 'the less OOC work the better,' so our styles might not match up very often. With that in mind, I'm striving to stick to the places we'd intersect on enjoyment for now, since it's not really my place to tell you how to enjoy your internet playtime.

I'm interested in your intentions because I think it helps to define what exactly it is that brings someone joy in a thing. So, for a project like this I'd ask if you just enjoy organizing information, or if you're looking for a way to contribute to the setting/world-building as a facet of creative RP, or if you're most interested in the social/political dynamics of a Wonderland where residents old and new seek to collaborate (and, naturally, the OOC collaboration itself inherent in RP at its more basic level).

Based on that, I'd move to asking you whether the tools you're using / offering others use of are the best ones to promote your goal and onboard new players/characters both OOCly/ICly. I don't want to lob ideas about HOW at you before I get a general sense of the WHY.

Without knowing those things, my suggestions boil down to 'narrow your scope' and then 'let it grow to fit needs, rather than planning for needs before they're needed.'
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-06-29 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahh yes, thank you for humoring my rambles! I think I get a better sense of the two sides of this big ol' coin, now. On one side you're making sure to be transparent about something that's in-character for Sharon to do because it could feel like you're stepping on toes. And on the other, Sharon's looking to get characters to discuss events and at least try to combat/deal with the things that they can't control. (Apologies if this is off the mark -- I hope you'll correct me if I've misunderstood.)

I'm trying to tread respectfully because I think I'm the very opposite of you when it comes to execution-- I actively use those blank spaces to support a similar function. In fact, the constant change/inability to define the world is one of the core game traits that I enjoy most about Eway, OOCly. I only mention this so that you also have an idea of where I'm coming from, not to discourage or judge.

Now, as for Ray's contribution / a tweak I'd make: I feel I'd be more inclined to have him participate via network posts rather than posting mingle meeting logs. Would that be a version you/Sharon could go for? For example, Ray might post an IC postevent survey with questions and prompts to the network. Or, alternatively, we could see if players/characters would run with a forum-style jack-a-thon to ask their own questions and swap/discuss rumors and link to resources they already use?

(And again, if these things don't align with what you're shooting for don't hesitate to veto away <3)
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-06-30 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Same! I like playing w ppl who do things differently so I can learn, too ^^

I do like log format, especially because there are a good handful of characters who don't make a habit of using the network. So maybe we'll stumble on a best of both worlds option (or someone will slam in here with sth)?

Sure! I'm unreliable for RP this weekend until after the 4th, though. So if you jones to post before then, go for it o7
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-07-06 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
HELLO OK i think it might worth it to have ray survey for the survey first, if that makes sense -- post up looking for volunteers / asking for what sort of information people would want to gather from a survey etc

thoughts / edits / vetos???
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-07-06 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
OH perfect lemme holler at her real quick then <3
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-07-07 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
ok it took a bit of a life of its own, partially bc i feel like it's easier for ppl to interact if there's something to mock ray out for doing first, so i hope THIS is an acceptable start???
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[personal profile] tobelieve 2017-07-02 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
Just jumping in since surveys were mentioned.

When I had Lydia here she did a couple of surveys based on the worlds that people came from. I don't know if they'd be of any use but if yes we could ~hand gestures say that her notebooks ended up in like the library or something? She never published the results but lots of people responded to the surveys. I can grab links to them if you'd like to look over, too!
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[personal profile] tobelieve 2017-07-02 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
Wah don't, I miss her so much 😢 i had her here nearly 3 years, it's ridiculous.

ANYWAY SURVEYS one about magic and one about tech

Helena would also appreciate reading an events list for previous events knowledge bc weird and not so wonderful things she knows a bit about, but that'd be more just to catch her knowledge up. She's out of her depth here a bit
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-07-06 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
yo you mind if ray references / links to those ICly????
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[personal profile] waverides 2017-07-06 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] tobelieve 2017-07-09 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
That looks amazing!! I'm looking through some of those events like wow I remember that from my ye olde first days here

I might also have a character that could help Sharon out icly on this if you'd like, though at the minute I don't have an IC reason/way to shove her in on this but I will keep a thinking and find ways to make stuff happen
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[personal profile] sciencelizard 2017-07-03 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Alphys had wanted to talk about like, forming a kind of event science team where there could be notes taken on the world to compile into something that could live in the library? As like, a compendium about worlds visited/things people could study if they saw an event announcement and thought it was theirs. She didn't get it off the ground or anything yet (this was concepted at like, the Citadel event or smth) but if Sharon talked about it she'd def want to be involved!!
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[personal profile] sciencelizard 2017-07-06 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah!! I know Fitz was doing a bunch of study on the magic during the D&D event so there's gotta be more people than her haha
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-07-06 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
i could have ray do an IC prelim type situation if that helps??? i'm going to frame it as ray being like 'sharon and i chatted and i went searching and found cool surveys from years ago let's do that more officially' or sth?
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[personal profile] sciencelizard 2017-07-06 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
that sounds good to me!!! O:
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-07-07 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
OKAY as i drafted/edited it turned into something broader -- lmk if it needs more specificity to get alphys' atteniont <3
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[personal profile] sciencelizard 2017-07-08 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
aah sorry for bein late, I can work with this!!! I'll hit it up now c:
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[personal profile] shrinkage 2017-07-08 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
oh gosh it's no trouble at all, esp since it took me awhile to write up and i feel like i STILL coulda done a better job at making it both specific and also broad and now i'm rambling

tldr psh you are right on time!